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dave9876543210 wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 16:57 the Victoria line is completely cut off from the rest of the network they have to go by road the 95 stock can travel up there but under manual control
Thats incorrect, the victoria line connects to the Piccadilly at finsbury park
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Michiel wrote: 28 Dec 2020, 19:51 No, definitely not. Most of the purple line stations look like this, with the signals not operational yet (manually set to green for testruns because otherwise the AI does not depart). It will take many months to make this into a complete route:
No hurry! Take your time for your awesome work, devs! :D
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perfecttrains1000 wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 17:06
Michiel wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 14:56 Isn't the Victoria Line 2009 stock also slightly larger? Also I understand S-stock operates under 750V, except for the parts that are or can be shared with Jubilee and Piccadilly lines. In the past Piccadilly line could operate up to High Street Kensington (there are some rare videos of 1973 stock over there on youtube) but since the voltage increase it's apparently no longer possible.
All of the tube tunnels are the same size i think
Victoria Line has a more generous clearance when built, the 09 stock takes advantage of this and therefore don't fit into other Tube Line's tunnels (i.e. they're not allowed to use the Piccadilly crossover to leave the line). The Central Line has a slightly smaller tunnel size but I don't think this means other lines' stock don't fit.

SSR lines have been upgraded from 630V to a more standard 750V for all SSR-stock-exclusive lines; the works were completed a few years back. S-Stock tolerates both 630V and 750V (as they're new enough to do so; Picc stock going onto SSR lines would probably fry some electronics)
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tyteen4a03 wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 19:17 Victoria Line has a more generous clearance when built, the 09 stock takes advantage of this and therefore don't fit into other Tube Line's tunnels (i.e. they're not allowed to use the Piccadilly crossover to leave the line).
On an Information sheet that gives info about the stock, it states that the 1973 stock's width is 2629mm and height of 2888mm while the 2009 stock has a width of 2616mm and a height of 2883mm so they would be able to fit in the same tunnels.

Information found here: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... dition.pdf
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That would be true for square tunnels, but the tunnels are round so the loading gauge is not just width/height but the entire shape.
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Michiel wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 20:39 That would be true for square tunnels, but the tunnels are round so the loading gauge is not just width/height but the entire shape.
Fair enough
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perfecttrains1000 wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 19:56
tyteen4a03 wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 19:17 Victoria Line has a more generous clearance when built, the 09 stock takes advantage of this and therefore don't fit into other Tube Line's tunnels (i.e. they're not allowed to use the Piccadilly crossover to leave the line).
On an Information sheet that gives info about the stock, it states that the 1973 stock's width is 2629mm and height of 2888mm while the 2009 stock has a width of 2616mm and a height of 2883mm so they would be able to fit in the same tunnels.

Information found here: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/ ... dition.pdf
Interesting; this contradicts the Wikipedia source (but the source they were using was from some random LURS source, while this one comes directly from TfL). So maybe they are able to roam around after all.
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in the city of thames scenarios the ai trains arent automatically changing their destination displays
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tyteen4a03 wrote: 29 Dec 2020, 19:17 Victoria Line has a more generous clearance when built, the 09 stock takes advantage of this and therefore don't fit into other Tube Line's tunnels (i.e. they're not allowed to use the Piccadilly crossover to leave the line). The Central Line has a slightly smaller tunnel size but I don't think this means other lines' stock don't fit.

SSR lines have been upgraded from 630V to a more standard 750V for all SSR-stock-exclusive lines; the works were completed a few years back. S-Stock tolerates both 630V and 750V (as they're new enough to do so; Picc stock going onto SSR lines would probably fry some electronics)
I believe the 73 stock has a voltage tolerance from 450V to 950 Volts , certainly 1938 stock does, or at least the converted class 483s
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