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Sjoerd wrote: 27 Jan 2019, 14:07 The PCC has now been added to the Toronto trams download package

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Download: https://filehorst.de/d/cldzgGsi

(Overwrite earlier files if you already use the Toronto Flexity/CLRV/ALRV.)

Enjoy! ;)
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T2P Films has made a video for the PCC;



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ztCFlKKTVs
(I did give them permission to host the download on their website ;) )
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Sjoerd wrote: 27 Jan 2019, 14:07 The PCC has now been added to the Toronto trams download package

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Download: https://filehorst.de/d/cldzgGsi

(Overwrite earlier files if you already use the Toronto Flexity/CLRV/ALRV.)

Enjoy! ;)
Wow another tram! I gotta admit, this one looks like Tatra T1 tram. Only the panto is on rear not on front.
If you wonder why, Tatra T1 was hugely inspired by PCC trams and you can say, that Tatra Smíchov copied PCC tram by making Tatra T1
Here is Tatra T1 for comparison
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This one is historic prototype tram with ID number 5002 used on rare occasions. These trams had trolley poles in the past, but because you can't operate trolley poles and pantographs at the same time. This one had to be modified. Even the PCC in metrosim has panto instead of trolley pole (real life PCC has trolley pole), because metrosim isn't meant for trolley poles.
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brozma wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 14:12 real life PCC has trolley pole
In Toronto, yes.
In most of Europe, they always had a pantograph, as it's more efficient ;)
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Sjoerd wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 15:23
brozma wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 14:12 real life PCC has trolley pole
In Toronto, yes.
In most of Europe, they always had a pantograph, as it's more efficient ;)
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I like the look of The Hague way better.... (with the pantograph on the back)

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In San Francisco we had (not used very often anymore, still here though), an early 1900's overhead wire car that has a box pantograph, here's a crappy screenshot (not my photo originally):
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one thing that could be tried to get working trolley poles (another sim did this as well), move the rear coupling point of the PCC into the middle of the vehicle, then make a second "vehicle" (that is a trailer only and has the smallest possible amount of weight). This vehicle contains the trolley pole mesh only. it needs a very short distance between its "bogeys" but the rear coupling point of it must extend out far enough to be where the rear end of the visible PCC is. Now make the two a consist that can not be uncoupled and you should have a trolley pole correctly rotating in curves, at least if Metro Sim allows for two vehicles more or less inside each other without crashing and coupling points being far away from the bogeys of a vehicle.

But since its possible to achieve a similar effect by utilising the multi track drifting trick to bring vehicles closer together than intended which does not crash the game when two vehicles are physically inside each other it seems likely that this trick for trolley poles would work
(The only crash related to vehicles inside each other seems to be caused when two open coupler ends contact but the vehicles are both on the same side of the coupler in which case the game can't seem to figure out where is front and where is back and quits)


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SFMUNI wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 18:40 In San Francisco we had (not used very often anymore, still here though), an early 1900's overhead wire car that has a box pantograph, here's a crappy screenshot (not my photo originally):
Actually, I do believe the Orange Empire Railway Museum of SoCal has a couple of those preserved in operating condition. However I think they're equipped with trolley poles. Idk though.

Tho, all I care about is that they have Nippon Sharyo P865 144 from the LA Blue/Expo Line fleet preserved there.
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LosAngelesMetro56 wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 15:59 Cough cough
Nailed it! That PCC you found has tied down (lowered) trolley pole on the rear. So that one actually has it! :mrgreen:
Sjoerd wrote: 03 Feb 2019, 16:04 I like the look of The Hague way better.... (with the pantograph on the back)

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http://www.tram-museum.de/besucher/pcc- ... n-haag.jpg
Well, that explains, why is panto on the rear of the metrosim version of PCC.
MetroSimGermany wrote: 09 Feb 2019, 16:03 one thing that could be tried to get working trolley poles (another sim did this as well), move the rear coupling point of the PCC into the middle of the vehicle, then make a second "vehicle" (that is a trailer only and has the smallest possible amount of weight). This vehicle contains the trolley pole mesh only. it needs a very short distance between its "bogeys" but the rear coupling point of it must extend out far enough to be where the rear end of the visible PCC is. Now make the two a consist that can not be uncoupled and you should have a trolley pole correctly rotating in curves, at least if Metro Sim allows for two vehicles more or less inside each other without crashing and coupling points being far away from the bogeys of a vehicle.

But since its possible to achieve a similar effect by utilising the multi track drifting trick to bring vehicles closer together than intended which does not crash the game when two vehicles are physically inside each other it seems likely that this trick for trolley poles would work
(The only crash related to vehicles inside each other seems to be caused when two open coupler ends contact but the vehicles are both on the same side of the coupler in which case the game can't seem to figure out where is front and where is back and quits)


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Mein Gott! That would be a good challenge for Michiel. I want to see him do that. ;)
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