Beta 3.12

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Re: Beta 3.12

Post by senjer » 19 Nov 2017, 18:59

How do I know that better :lol: , everyone in Rotterdam could know.

In Rotterdam there is only one driver. The control teams (BOA (Buitengewoon Opsporingsambtenaar)) are all over the place. They walk around all busses, trams and metro's operated by the RET and Connexxion in the region. So they could be on board but most of the time it's only for a couple of stations.

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Re: Beta 3.12

Post by Alfacinha315 » 19 Nov 2017, 19:55

Thanks senjer. :)

So it's like in Lisbon, I only see the driver everytime I use the system.
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Re: Beta 3.12

Post by RotterdamMetroLover » 19 Nov 2017, 20:48

senjer wrote:
19 Nov 2017, 18:59
How do I know that better :lol: , everyone in Rotterdam could know.

In Rotterdam there is only one driver. The control teams (BOA (Buitengewoon Opsporingsambtenaar)) are all over the place. They walk around all busses, trams and metro's operated by the RET and Connexxion in the region. So they could be on board but most of the time it's only for a couple of stations.
I meant you can explain better, so. There's always someone better than me, you know.

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Re: Beta 3.12

Post by LosAngelesMetro56 » 20 Nov 2017, 21:00

Sometimes we would have 2 drivers for fast turn-arounds.
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Re: Beta 3.12

Post by Sjoerd » 20 Nov 2017, 22:04

LosAngelesMetro56 wrote:
20 Nov 2017, 21:00
Sometimes we would have 2 drivers for fast turn-arounds.
I have seen that in Japan when I was there in 2006; a driver on both ends of the train. The one on the non-driving end does all the announcements, and at the end station, he becomes the driver for the return trip (they switch functions);

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Re: Beta 3.12

Post by Alfacinha315 » 20 Nov 2017, 22:10

On our Intercity trains (except Beira Baixa and Alentejo lines, to Beja) the ticket checker does all the annnouncmeents. Well, sometimes they fail... :roll:
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Re: Beta 3.12

Post by MetroSimGermany » 21 Nov 2017, 14:10

in normal German trains the person who checks the tickets, aka the conductor "Zugbegleiter" does the announcements. They don't drive
sometimes there are trains without a conductor on low traffic lines, then the driver takes over the task of checking the doors. If no automatic announcements are available then the driver might manually do them.

On the Berlin U-Bahn the driver does everything alone, announcements are completely automatic
On the S-Bahn there are only automatic announcements in the older train which have neither mirrors or a door for the driver to leave the cockpit. On newer trains, drivers use the mirrors or the door to check the doors, they also manually make the train destination and door warn announcements

theres rare occasions of a driver on both ends, which is if there is a train going back and forth on a short section because of track works
then a short turning time is needed so two drivers are on the train

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Re: Beta 3.12

Post by brozma » 29 Nov 2017, 18:54

In normal Czech train there's no annoucer at all and passengers have to pay attention where they are. But on every station there's a big blue sign with white text, which tells the name of the station.
This also applies for older suburban electric units, like electric unit 451 series (also nicknamed as "Pantograph" or "Frogmouth") and for older diesel units like diesel unit 810 series (which uses diesel engine from LIAZ truck and also nicknamed as "Rail bus").
The newer suburban units, like electric unit 471 series (also nicknamed as "City elephant") and newer diesel units, like diesel unit 814 series (also nicknamed "Regionova") has built-in automatic annoucer with naturally sounding female voice. The voice is not sythetized (like in text-to-speech programs), but that's a voice of a real person recorded into onboard computer and driver just plays them when train is approaching station

In Prague metro only driver is present in train all the time. Ticket inspectors sometimes can be found in trains, but they can leave the train when they want. This also applies for trams. In some trams like Tatra T3 or Tatra T6A5 the driver's cabin is so small, that only one driver can fit here.
The annoucer in metro trains and trams is same like from newer suburban rail units by mechanics. The only difference is voice used in them. Trams and metro lines A and B use female voice, but they are different. Only metro line C uses male voice. I can ironically say, that Prague transport company is being feministic (No offence ok?)

The reason why real recorded voice is used in annoucers is, that real recorded voice sounds more natural and more telligible. Yeah you can't change it freely, but synthetized voice sometimes sounds unnaturally and weird (many of you maybe heard about Microsoft Sam's famous mispronouciation of word "soy". If you make Sam say "soy", he says "swah" which resembles spinning helicopter rotor blade)
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Re: Beta 3.12

Post by Jim2016 » 29 Nov 2017, 21:12

Actually, the automated announcements are played automatically. There is no action needed from the driver.
There are some detectors on the tracks and when the train passes over them, the next announcement is played.

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Re: Beta 3.12

Post by Alfacinha315 » 30 Nov 2017, 23:41

The Line M1 morning activity (for Rijndam 2020) starts with the doors opened on the wrong side. And I think the waiting times at DRIM panels are wrong...
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Trains are my favourite addiction! :D "Na entrada para os comboios, atenção à distância entre as portas e a plataforma".

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